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Australian pro “gay” ‘marriage’ lobbyists oppose referendum

April 30, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Rodney Croome, national director of Australian Marriage Equality – a pro-same-sex ‘marriage’ lobby group – is reported in The Age to be opposed to a referendum being held to determine whether or not same-sex ‘marriages’ should be legalized. Croome, a Tasmania-based Australian LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) rights activist and academic says:

Overseas referenda on marriage equality have been exploited by cashed-up, anti-gay groups to conduct fear and hate campaigns against gay people.

We know from US research that in states where there have been marriage equality referenda there is an increase in the level of anxiety, depression and suicide among gay and lesbian people.

The people who suffer the most are young gay people coming to terms with their sexuality.

An Australian referendum would give anti-gay stalwarts such as Fred Nile the biggest megaphone they have ever had.

This is why anti-equality groups are usually the ones calling for a referendum.

Another big problem is confusion about what’s being proposed.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/why-a-referendum-on-gay-marriage-is-a-bad-idea-20130429-2inuh.html#ixzz2RqRU2K00

Comment: Croome asserts that anyone who dares to express any opposition to “gay marriage” is “anti-gay” by definition and will “conduct fear and hate campaigns against gay people” motivated by their hatred of “gays”. This reasoning is absurd. It is logically flawed, false and is incessantly repeated by leading “gay” rights campaigners around the world.

Leading Christian philopsopher Dr William Lane Craig has addressed the fallacy inherent in this type of ‘reasoning’ when he states:

“It occurs to me that if my thinking that homosexual acts are immoral means that I hate homosexual people, then it follows that I must also hate all single people, since I think that pre-marital sex is wrong. Surely such an accusation is patently absurd.”

Many oppose “gay” or same-sex ‘marriage’ (SSM) for reasons that are not in any way connected with a belief that homosexual acts are wrong. They believe traditional marriage is a foundational institution of civil society and has been universally understood to involve a man and a woman in an exclusive relationship. This definition holds true irrespective of what people believe about the morality of homosexual acts between consenting adults.  Many practising homosexuals opposes “gay” marriage and want nothing to do with an institution that they consider archaic, patriarchal and a hinderance to their sexual practices and lifestyle.

It is a logical absurdity for anyone, let alone an academic who should know better, to claim that if a person opposes SSM that means they hate “gay” people. It is an obvious non sequitur i.e. it is an inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence.

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Filed Under: Homosexuality, Marriage Tagged With: anti-equality, anti-gay, Australian Marriage, gay marriage, referendum Equality, Rodney Croom, same-sex marriage

Christian groups welcome gay marriage referendum

April 29, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Christian groups want a referendum on gay marriage, saying Australians will reject any change to the status quo if the question posed was a ”black and white” choice on whether to allow ”homosexuals to marry”.

As divisions emerged among the Greens and same-sex marriage advocates over a referendum, Reverend Fred Nile joined the Australian Christian lobby in calling for the matter to be decided on election day.

Rev Nile said his Christian Democratic Party had been ”pipped at the post” by Mr Windsor and had planned to publicly call for a referendum next week.

He told Fairfax Media: ”I think people should decide the issue.

”But the question has to be clear. A question like ‘are you in favour of marriage equality?’ will confuse some people. I’m in favour of marriage equality – between a husband and a wife.

”The question has to be black and white: Do you agree that homosexuals should be legally married?
”I think the majority of people would vote no if the question was clear.”

[An online poll run by The Age on the question’Should there be a referendum on same-sex marriage?’ received 11,493 responses. Of these 69% supported a referendum and 31% were opposed].

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Christian groups welcome gay marriage referendum. April 29, 2013.

By Heath Aston and Dan Harrison

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/christian-groups-welcome-gay-marriage-referendum-20130429-2io0q.html#ixzz2RotDbEMS

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Filed Under: Homosexuality, Marriage Tagged With: Australian Christian lobby, Christian Democratic Party, referendum, Rev Fred Nile, same-sex marriage

Family First NZ reaction to legalisation of “gay” ‘marriage’

April 28, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Stuff News reports today on the reaction of Family First NZ director Bob McCroskie to the legalisation of “gay” ‘marriage’:

He says the legalisation of gay marriage confirmed National had swung to the left and was no longer a conservative party. Labour was voted out in 2008 for social engineering policies, including legalised prostitution, civil unions, and anti-smacking, but politicians still believed they could introduce such legislation. Family First’s membership quadrupled from 8000 to 32,000 as a result of the marriage debate and they were ready to mobilise their supporters against gay adoption and euthanasia.

“People don’t understand the process and don’t think it’s worth getting involved and we see our role is to get rid of that misconception.”

McCroskie has websites against both issues ready to go live if the bills are drawn.

Sources:

Births, Deaths and Marriages up for debate by Kate Chapman 28 April 2013

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8605183/Births-deaths-and-marriages-up-for-debate

For more on Family First NZ, a registered charity, go to:

www.familyfirst.org.nz

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Maurice Williamson MP: ‘Gay Icon’ must answer to a Higher Being

April 24, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Dominion Post Letter to Editor (24 April) accompanied by colour photo of ‘Gay Icon’ Maurice Williamson delivering pro-same-sex marriage [Marriage Amendment bill] speech on 17 April 2013. In 2004, he voted against civil unions at the Third Reading of the Civil Union Act, along with John Key and 22 other Nation Party MPs.

maurice williamson

National Pakuranga MP Maurice Williamson’s marriage-amendment bill speech would have been half funny were it not for the assumptions he made as facts. He promised that the Sun would rise tomorrow, we’d not suffer skin diseases or plagues of toads, and that the world would carry on. His knowledge of physics assures us eternal punishment will last 2.1 seconds. His major error is to ignore that he’s answerable to a higher authority. It’s an error shared by the bill’s supporters, including some churches and their leaders. Though he and this Government might act as if they govern the universe, the Bible is clear that they will be called to account for their lives. Pussyfooting around, with platitudes about loving relationships and Jesus’ acceptance of everyone, ignores that, faced with an adulterous woman, he said, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more” – the later instruction being the condition placed on the forgiveness. The Church must be aware that after 30 years of “normalising ” homosexuality, the future demand will be to marry same-sex people in church because it would be “discriminatory” not to do so. What then, sheep?

Peter Bradley, Aotea.

24 April 2013. The Dominion Post. P. A10.

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Filed Under: Civil Unions, Homosexuality, Marriage Tagged With: Civil Union Act, civil unions, Gay Icon, marriage amendment bill, Maurice Williamson, normalising homosexuality, Pakuranga MP, same-sex marriage

Group calls for legalisation of multi-partner marriage

April 23, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Stuff News (23/04/13) reports:

A group is calling for the Government to consider legalising multi-partner marriages.

The group set up a Facebook page just before the Marriage Amendment Bill passed through Parliament last week, legalising gay marriage.

A statement on the page described multi-partner – or polyamorous – marriage as “responsible, adult, committed non-monogamy,” and said all committed loving relationships between adults regardless of number should be respected and given legal acknowledgement.

“Some Australian Greens have now got a lobby group going, there are several MPs around the world coming out as poly and poly-friendly and it seems the time is right to at least bring it to the attention of the New Zealand public and New Zealand parliament,” the group said.

“This will be a long-term project but with the rest of the world getting on the bandwagon legal multiple partner marriages/unions may one day be accepted.”

The “slippery slope” towards legalising polygamy, polyamory or incestuous relationships has often been an argument raised by opponents of the Marriage Amendment Bill.

Last year the member in charge of the bill, Labour Party MP Louisa Wall, and Conservative Party leader Colin Craig went head to head in a live online debate about marriage equality.

At the time Mr Craig predicted the bill would inevitably raise issues surrounding discrimination to people in polygamous or polyamorous relationships who could not marry and yesterday said it was “no surprise” the Support Legalise Polyamory in New Zealand group had started up and there was no doubt marriage would be further redefined in the future.

“We have opened the doors to this.”

He said it had begun when the line was moved for civil unions.

“They said that was it, they’d never touch marriage again, and that’s what they’re saying now.”

Mr Craig said legalising gay marriage created a precedent for further redefinition of marriage, which he had been against from the start.

Last year Ms Wall said marriage was based on love, which was why gay and lesbian people wanted the same rights.

“Marriage is the institution of two people who love each other committing themselves to a shared life together. This bill will not address polygamy or other forms of relationship.”

Mr Craig said if people were intellectually honest they would see the arguments for legalising gay marriage could apply directly to those in other alternative relationships.

“If it’s about love and commitment and respect, don’t they have that? They would say they do.”

Source:

Story by Kirsty McMurray. 23 April 2013

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8588721/Legalise-multi-partner-marriage-group

Kirsty McMurray

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Filed Under: Marriage Tagged With: incestuous relationships, Marriage Amendment, multi-partner marriage, polyamorous relationship, polyamory, polygamy

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