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Mike Butler: The gay-marriage self-parody

April 20, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

The phrase “gay rights for nuclear-free whales” quite accurately parodies the shallow, trendy, bumper-sticker campaigns of the New Zealand left. Shallow trendiness dominated parliament this week as Labour MP Louisa Wall’s Marriage (Definition of Marriage Bill) Amendment Bill passed its third reading 77 votes to 44.

Customs Minister Maurice Williamson promised the sky would not cave in, which was obvious since figures from New Zealand’s 2006 census show that same-sex couples make up fewer than 1 percent of all couples in New Zealand. The numbers of homosexual men living together reached 0.3 percent in 2006, while the number of homosexual women cohabiting made up 0.4 percent of all couples living together.

A total of 3516 female couples and 2655 male couples lived together in 2006, compared with 867,696 couples of the opposite sex. In 2011, of all homosexual couples living together, 232 couples entered into a civil union, with 133 of them women.

To what extent did this shallow, trendy, bumper-sticker campaign clog up parliament? Some indication came from the time it took for MPs to reply to the email I sent to all on August 28 last year. Labour MP Lianne Dalziel replied in March this year while National MP Nicky Wagner replied on April 16.

For full report go to:

http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2013/04/mike-butler-gay-marriage-self-parody.html?m=0

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Filed Under: HIV/AIDS STIs, Marriage Tagged With: definition of marriage, gay marriage, homosexual couples, Louisa Wall, Maurice Williamson, Mike Butler, same-sex marriage

Same-sex marriage. “Openly lesbian” Labour MP Louisa Wall in a civil union, has no marriage plans

April 17, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Ms Louisa Wall, the “openly lesbian” 41-year old Manurewa Labour MP who is “the architect of the most significant change to New Zealand marriage law”, is reported in the NZ Herald today to have “an admission to make – she has no plans to get married”. She is currently in a civil union which could be ‘upgraded’ to a ‘marriage’ if her bill is passed, but she is not interested in doing so.

Her private members bill – the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill – was selected from the ballot and introduced to parliament on 26 July 2012 and is expected to be voted into law at its Third Reading in parliament tonight. It amends the Marriage Act 1955 to legalise same-sex ‘marriage’.

In an interview published in Womens Weekly earlier this year, Louisa Wall said she has been in a civil union since 2011 with partner Prue Tamatekapua (Prue Kapua), a mother-of-two and a lawyer specialising in Treaty of Waitangi issues, whom she met in 2007.  They had their civil union ceremony at Te Mahurehure Marae in Point Chevalier, Auckland, where 200 guests helped celebrate their union in 2010.

Louisa told the NZ Herald:

“For Prue and I the most important thing when we wanted to formalise our relationship was to have our parents there. Having a Civil Union satisfied us.”

She added: “That was the only choice we had. If the law does change, and we can marry, then we will be able to have a conversation about that.”

The new bill will mean that couples in a civil union can simply ­fill in a form to change their status to that of a married couple. But Louisa and Prue aren’t going down that route, she told Womens Weekly.

While comfortable with her own personal situation, Louisa believes it’s vitally important for individuals and couples to have options.

Opponents of her bill have every reason to question her motivation and integrity in promoting her bill given that she and her LGBT (lesbian, “gay”, bisexual and transsexual) supporters have been pushing for “gay marriage” based on claims that civil unions are largely “meaningless” for their community and they need “marriage” instead to be truly happy, fulfilled and able to jointly adopt children. If so, why has the “champion” of this bill shown so little interest in getting married even though her lesbian partner has two children?

When did Louisa Wall conclude that she was a lesbian?

She said she had been too distracted by netball at high school – she was New Zealand’s youngest-ever Silver Fern – to question her sexuality, but began to feel she might be “gay” at age 19.

When she was 21, Ms Wall found a partner and came out to her parents.

“I’ve never not been out,” she told Womens Weekly. “I think I realised I was gay in my late teens and from then on I’ve had female partners. “For me, it’s always been a part of who I am, so I’ve never felt a need not to share that.”

[If it’s true that she’s “never not been out” then how come she only discovered she might be a lesbian at the age of 19? The two statements are incompatible]

After she “drifted apart” from her partner of 10 years, she met Prue while working at the Waiatarau Branch of the Maori Women’s Welfare League.

Womens Weekly reported:

“Now, with Prue at her side and achieving recognition as one of Parliament’s youngest MPs, there is only one thing missing in Louisa’s life – a baby. While she would love to be a mother and has tried to conceive in the past, her efforts have been unsuccessful.”

What is far clearer is that Louisa Wall and her supporters have failed to convince the majority of New Zealanders that there is any good reason that the Marriage Act 1955 should be amended to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples. Over half the country oppose her bill. It is  clear that Louisa Wall’s bill has split the country and a lesbian woman who has no interest in marriage herself is prepared to go to extraordinary lengths to undermine an institution that has served the public good well. Not only does the bill make a mockery of the terms “husband” and “wife” and “marriage”, but it is an attack on the natural and normal sexuality that is engaged in by those joined in the traditional marriage bond. New Zealanders are being sold the lie via state legislation that heterosexual sex within marriage is equal or equivalent to the forms of sexual expression engaged in by homosexuals.  

References:

Gay marriage: Wall has no marriage plans. By Isaac Davison

April 17, 2013

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10877993

Labour MP Louisa Wall: Fighting for our rights. By Vicky Tyler

New Zealand’s Women’s Weekly. 28th March 2013

http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.nz/celebrity/labour-mp-louisa-wall-fighting-for-our-rights/

Meet “your” gay and lesbian MPs
By GayNZ.com Daily News staff
28th November 2011

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/33/printer_11118.php

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Filed Under: Homosexuality, Marriage Tagged With: civil union, lesbian, Louisa Wall, Prue Kapua, Prue Tamatekapua, same-sex marriage

Louisa Wall MP: Background to sponsor of ‘Same-Sex ‘Marriage’ Bill

April 3, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Labour List MP Louisa Wall, sponsor of the Marriage (Redefinition of Marriage) Bill which renders the concepts of “marriage”, “mother” “father”, “bride” and “bridegroom” meaningless by its proposed amendments to the Marriage Act 1955, has stated, dogmatically:

“I’ve never not been out. I think I realised I was gay in my late teens and from then on I’ve had female partners. For me, it’s always been a part of who I am, so I’ve never felt a need not to share that.” [Emphasis added].

The vast majority of New Zealanders will genuinely struggle to comprehend the meaning of her claims. Whilst apparently sincere, they appear imaginery and fictional. She is so very dogmatic! – “I’ve never not been out“. Presumably she actually believes she has been a lesbian from birth – i.e. ‘hard-wired’ genetically to be sexually attracted only to women. If so, she has never provided any evidence for this and such a claim is not supported in the scientific literature (i.e. empirical scientific proof of the existence of a so-called gay gene).

What then do her dogmatic claims actually mean, if anything? They appear to be meaningless and delusional. For a start she contradicts her claim about never not being “out” when she says she thinks she first came to the realisation of her ‘orientation’ in her “late teens” and only “from then on .. had female partners.” Perhaps she could tell the public how she knows as a fact that her lesbian ‘sexual orientation’ already existed from her infancy to “late teens”.

If a heterosexual male sportsman claimed in an interview with Woman’s Weekly that he had “never not been out as heterosexual”, would any of the thousands of discerning, rational-minded scholarly readers of the magazine have queried the meaning of such a claim and/or perhaps even raised queries about the validity or truthfulness of this claim? Of course they would, many of them no doubt! Some might have wondered if he had suffered a “brain fade” like John Key or David Shearer, not regarding an investment portfolio or a failure to disclose a pecuniary interest to parliament, but with regard to his sexual identity.

This example illustrates how homosexuals have captured the language by using words such as “out” and denoting a ‘meaning’ to it that serves the exclusive homosexual agenda, but makes no sense when used  by a heterosexual. A whole series of oxymorons arise when such words are used together with the word “heterosexual”: e.g. “gay-heterosexual” and “out-heterosexual”. The absurdity of the concept of “gay-marriage”/ “same-sex marriage” is plain to see for any rational person who has not been seduced/taken-in by the emotional appeal/deception of the pro-“same-sex marriage” homosexual activists.

But is it even possible for a heterosexual to “out” himself or herself? Clearly homosexuals do “it” on a regular basis, on national TV etc. to score international headlines. But the very idea of a Maori sports-star  MP “outing” himself/herself to colleagues in parliament in a Maiden Speech, as a heterosexual i.e. confessing one’s attraction to persons of the opposite sex, is preposterous! So why have MPs and the New Zealand public tolerated and applauded the ‘courage’ and “honesty’ of current Labour homosexual MPs such as Louisa Wall and Maryan Street, and Green MP Kevin Hague, for using the vehicle of the House of Representatives to “out” themselves to the New Zealand public? Why have these homosexuals felt it necessary to foist such ‘important’ information related to their intimate private affairs-‘sexual orientation’, onto the rest of us using the platform of parliament?

Clearly such well-orchestrated homosexual disclosures, are part of a deliberate political agenda – driven by highly questionable tactics and ethics – to use parliament to secure alleged “human rights” for a “gay” minority – a class defined only by its sexual activities involving same-sex attraction rather than opposite sex attraction. The “social change” these activists champion is  fixated in sex – on their so-called “human-rights” agenda that if accepted and enshrined into law, will normalise sodomy and other practices engaged in by homosexuals and ‘elevate’ (so they believe) them to a new status on a par with heterosexual marriage. It is all part of the plan to try and destigmatise homosexual sexual practices and gain acceptance for their lifestyle.

The homosexual crusade for “gay rights” including “same-sex marriage”, is based on a series of false premises such as the claim that “marriage equality is a human right”. Contrary to their delusional claims, heterosexual marriage is fundamentally different from homosexual ‘marriage’, as the former involves the union of opposite sexes, while the latter does not. Equality does NOT mean the same in the context of marriage, as they falsely claim.

All people of the same sex do not have equal rights to get married, as a number of categories (see Schedule 2 of the Act) among those of the same sex (e.g. men) are excluded. For example, under the Civil union law and under the proposed bill, a man A cannot marry his same-sex civil union partner’s father (father of B), subsequent to and in the event of A-B’s same-sex civil union (or ‘marriage’) being dissolved. The law forbids it. However, another man, unrelated to A and B can marry B’s father under the proposed bill.

Women’s Weekly reported:

“The 41-year-old’s passion for social change is what led her [Louisa Wall] into politics.

“Already in a civil union with partner Prue Tamatekapua , a lawyer specialising in Treaty of Waitangi issues, the couple ­first met through the Maori Women’s Welfare League in 2007.

“The new bill will mean that couples in a civil union can simply ­fill in a form to change their status to that of a married couple. But Louisa and Prue aren’t going down that route.

“Louisa and mother-of-two Prue had their ceremony at Te Mahurehure Marae in Point Chevalier, Auckland, where 200 guests helped celebrate their union in 2010.

“While comfortable with her own personal situation, Louisa believes it’s vitally important for individuals and couples to have options. “We made the decision to have a civil union, but for Charles Chauvel [a gay Labour MP] and his partner, that wasn’t good enough – they decided to go to Canada and get married.”

“… there is only one thing missing in Louisa’s life – a baby. While she would love to be a mother and has tried to conceive in the past, her efforts have been unsuccessful.”

Here we learn that Louisa and her partner Prue Tamatekapua have no intention of changing their civil union relationship to a marriage, even if Wall’s legally flawed bill becomes law. Instead of fighting for hers and Prue’s right’s, Louisa says she is fighting for the rights of other homosexuals to be able to get married. If so, Prue and Louise will never be “spouses” in law, if the bill becomes law, and will be unable to adopt children as a same-sex couple. With the biological clock ticking any woman (lesbian or heterosexual), truly wanting to have her own baby, will need the ‘services’ of at least one person from the opposite sex known as “male” to produce a child.

The term “same-sex marriage” is meaningless once the real unique distinction (relative to other types of relationships) of marriage, based on the exclusive one male-one-female nature of the relationship, is broken down by adding same-sex couples to the traditional marriage mix. For this reason there must remain a separate category-status distinction in law that recognises marriage as an exclusive relationship between two opposite sex partners.

Source of quotes:

Labour MP Louisa Wall: Fighting for our rights. By Vicky Tyler

Women’s Weekly. 28th March 2013

http://www.nzwomansweekly.co.nz/celebrity/labour-mp-louisa-wall-fighting-for-our-rights/

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Louisa Wall and Emperor Nero’s perverted same-sex ‘marriage’ !!

April 1, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Ms Louisa Wall, who hit the headlines as New Zealand’s  “first Maori lesbian MP”, has highlighted in the House of Representatives the fact that “same-sex marriage between men was not uncommon in the days of the Roman emperor Nero”, during the course of her First Reading speech in support of her private member’s bill – the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill. She and her supporters are determined to force upon all New Zealanders an acceptance of “same-sex marriage” as  normative, when most either view it as a gross moral perversion that is detrimental to the public good and/or oppose it because they do not believe the bill achieves anything meaningful for homosexuals beyond what is already open to them in civil unions.

At its first two readings, the majority of MPs voted in support of Louisa Wall’s bill that seeks to have the State amend the Marriage Act 1955 to allow for “same-sex marriage”, despite the fact that it is a demonstrably meaningless concept: “same-sex marriage” is an oxymoron.

Does Ms Wall not know that Roman Emperor Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus—a fanatical devotee of Jupiter and Minerva—was the most depraved monster that ever disgraced the annals of history? Is she not aware that the name Nero is proverbial for murder, rape, sodomy, incest, cruelty, and every kind of crime imaginable?

In 65 AD, the mad Pontiff Nero crowned all his other debauches by a same-sex ‘marriage’. Nero ‘married’ a male look-alike of his murdered wife Poppaea Sabina.

For more on the perverted same-sex ‘marriage’ of Nero, heralded by Ms Louisa Wall, go to:

http://www.reformation.org/perverted-marriage-of-nero.html

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Louisa Wall: Same-sex “marriage”, Nero and bestiality

April 1, 2013 by SPCS Leave a Comment

Louisa Wall highlighted the fact that “same-sex marriage between men was not uncommon in the days of the Roman emperor Nero”, in her First Reading speech (ref. 1) in parliament in support of her private member’s bill – the Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill. She put forward the erroneous argument that because “the civil and social institution of marriage” had [allegedly] “changed dramatically” over the period “pre-dat[ing] government and Christianity” and leading up to the present-day, as illustrated by the legalisation of homosexual marriage in Rome in the time of Nero, New Zealand MPs should therefore support her bill and embrace homosexual marriage.  Then she made the claim that for opponents of her bill to “even raise such concerns” as “polygamy, bigamy, bestiality and incest … within the context of discussion about marriage equality” [i.e. homosexual “marriage”] was “insulting” to her and those championing her bill, because such practices constituted “criminal offences” under current NZ law.

One MP who voted in support of her bill at its first and second readings was National MP the Hon. Maurice Williamson.  Never one to be outdone in espousing a libertarian argument he said, “I don’t care if someone wants to marry their dog as long as they don’t do it on the front lawn” (ref. 2). Such flippancy from a bill supporter – involving an ‘argument’ based on reductio ad absurdum – and relying on the ‘linking’ of homosexual sex/”marriage” with bestiality – is illustrative of the libertarian attitude of a number of other MPs supporting the bill. For them, limiting marriage to one man and one woman makes little sense, adults should be entitled in their view to form whatever intimate relationships they want involving sexual activity, and have them recognised in law.

Some MPs opposing the bill have highlighted polygamy, bigamy etc, just as Williamson has done with bestiality, not to be flippant like him, but rather to seek to raise the serious and genuine question as to where a line should be drawn, if at all, to limit the definition of marriage. Williamson just doesn’t seem to care where the line should be drawn, as long as consenting adults confine their activities to the privacy of their own homes. Such an attitude disregards, or at best makes light of serious considerations of the relationship between adults and their offspring and/or adoptive children. It also takes no account of public health issues around sexual promiscuity and/or unsafe sex practices.

For opponents of the bill, who do care, the line starts and finishes with the one man – one woman definition of marriage. There are clearly no reasonable grounds for claiming that their references to bigamy and polygamy in the course of advancing their case against the bill, are “insulting” as Louisa Wall claims. Wall’s supporters regularly vilify the  bill’s opponents as “homophobes”, “gay-bashers” and “gay-haters”. Then employing the “victim – mentality syndrome” seek to shut down all legitimate debate over the bill, by claiming that opponents are “insulting” them, when in fact the latter are involved in legitimate debate involving reasoned arguments.

Over 70 MPs have now been persuaded by the types of banal and perverse arguments Louisa Wall has used (above) to support her bill that if passed would bring New Zealand into line with homosexual ‘marriage’ practices legalised under Nero in Rome.

References:

Ref. 1. Hansard Record. Marriage (Definition of Marriage) Amendment Bill — First Reading. Sitting date: 29 August 2012. Speech by Louisa Wall (Labour—Manurewa). Volume: 683; Page:4913. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.

Ref. 2  Same-sex union debate no marriage made in heaven. By Dan Dolejs

Nelson Mail. 25 March 2013.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/opinion/8468573/Same-sex-union-debate-no-marriage-made-in-heaven

 

 

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